Hood-to-Coast - Get Running!

I can drive a van. 

I'm not sure if I was serious about running.  Unless you really want to be my personal trainer and get me in shape.  I would love to be in good enough shape to do it but I've never liked running.  How far would I have to run?  Is this a race that the group would want to finish first?  How long would I have to train?  I'm so nervous b/c I've never been a runner!!  Let me think a couple days.  I thought JD wanted to do it also.

YIPEE!!!!!!

I'm super excited.  Pam and I are in. 

What about Jacob?  I think JD should definitely be in.  Maybe Jonathan.  With Cami in, maybe Joe could get in some running shape.

We also have some friends (Matthew and Michelle Baird) that we've run St. George with the last two years. They are moving to Portland from Ohio (GE) and would be willing to run if we need one or two non-Severson's to fill in.  He's run HTC in the past and is a very strong runner so would be available and fit with little notice so no need to decide real soon on them.   

Valorie, I don't think Troy will want people to drive other than who is running.  The  reason is that they like to use the vans like the Woods' because they take out one of the captain seats by the door so it is easier to get in and out, leaving only enough room for the runners.  He can correct me if I'm wrong...

Alright, I'm considering it, but honestly I haven't been paying attention and have no idea when this thing is.  I still have a nice pristine pair of running shoes from Brent with only a few miles on them.  What's the date and time of this thing?  $120 per runner?  x12? $1440?  Where is this money going?  (Edit: just reread and saw this is all inclusive)  I'm about 20lbs overweight right now so I definately have some work to do.

OK, I found the dates.  August 28th and 29th.  So I have plenty of time, no need to get up off the couch just yet.

So there are 36 legs, I'm assuming that each person runs 3 times.  Anywhere from 3-6 miles each leg. 

Troy, you didn't include yourself in the list of the runners. And what about Holly? I'll check with Brent, he's been running quite a bit lately, although he's never wanted to run HTC. Also, BTW, the spelling cop in me just has to point out that there is no "e" in Cami.

YES!!  I am so excited!  I have wanted to do the HTC for a while now.  I am definitely in.  I will try to convince Joe, we'll see what he says.  He has hip/knee issues and thus he doesn't love running.  Wondering if my sister, Lani, can run with us in place of Joe?  She has run in several marathons and was on BYU's track team.  I would love it if she could join us. She's a Severson right? ;-)

This is probably as good a place as any to mention that Brent has several extra Nike Employee Store passes, so if anyone needs to visit the store for shoes or gear, let us know. (My siblings and their spouses have permanent passes, so they do not need a pass, but adult nieces/nephews need passes.)

I'm still considering it, though I also notice Troy didn't list himself.  We'll see how many other "newbies" want to try it before I sign on.  It would be fun to do it as a family.  Otherwise, I don't feel any desire to put myself through it.

I don't think I'll be back in shape post-baby by August, but Jonathan might be interested.  He's planning on doing a long bike race that same weekend, but if that doesn't pan out I'm sure he'd be a back-up runner.

Awesome, i'm in.  

Sure, Holly, I see--I can volunteer to do anything--keep the water bottles full. 

Our van is definitely in, and we can volunteer as Chris/Pam kid babysitters so they can enjoy the experience. Other than that, sorry, no runners here. Maybe someday, I suppose, if you make this an annual family event.

I also noticed Troy leaving himself off the list, hopefully he's not planning to captain the team from afar!

I think that was an oversight on Troy's part.  He'd mentioned earlier that he wanted to be the last runner and run to the coast. 

So is this a race the group wants to win?  Or is it just for fun and you don't care what place you finish just as long as you finish?

you can volunteer to carry me when i get tired, mom.

I'm pretty sure we don't care about winning otherwise I would remove myself from the list to aid that.

I think there are thousands of teams so, no, we're not getting close to the winner's podium.  I'd need to look it up again but I believe there is a time limit of 24 hours or something which means we need to average 9:30 miles or so.

I just excited for the get in shape training, push myself a bit there, and staying up all night with the fam.

How does this work exactly, are we running all night?

yep, you may run one of your legs of the race in the middle of the night.

oh my gosh that sounds like sooooo much fun.  I wish I could do it with you guys!!!!

Fun?  Maybe...Torture, definitely.

So, a few answers now that I'm home from my biz trip.

Yes, you run through the night.  Everyone will have a leg in the dark, possibly two depending on how speedy (or not) we are.  Flashlights, reflective vests, etc. are required.

Yes, I left myself off on purpose, allowing for others who have not run HTC 10 times in the past to get in on the action.  If needed, I'm happy to run leg 12 (or, will also consider one of the long, hard legs, but if I do this race, I'd like to run a leg I haven't before).

No, we're not trying to win.  We don't have the talent to best the <18 hour finishers that run 6 min/mile pace on average for the whole 197 miles.  There is not a 24 hour cutoff, but the rules state that you should be able to complete the race in a total time that averages out to <10 min/mile average (~30 hours total).

On team members, let's try to assemble from family first, then we'll add siblings and friends if we can fill the quota of 12.

Sean, you do need to start running now.  Actually, start with some biking while you lose the weight, then start running so your knees don't rebel.

Cami got an extra 'e' because I know she's already putting forth the effort it takes to be an awesome team mate for HTC. 

The no driver in the van rule is more for consideration of room.  Everyone has a sleeping bag, clothes, food, cooler, pillows, shoes, sandals, etc. and even with roof racks, the vans tend to be crowded.  Bigger vans are just impossible to maneuver, so after 6 years as a team organizer, Honda Odyssey, in my opinion, are the perfect HTC vehicle with, as Holly said, one middle seat removed. Oh, and I'm not a fan of the automatically closing doors as they are too slow.  Valerie, we need volunteers and if we know early, we can get you near the coast so you can join the post race party easily or near the start so you can see us off.   Who else wants to be a volunteer?  We need 3 in total.

I was the first runner-started around 9:30am, ran again for my second leg around 7pm or so, and then the third leg at 4:30am the next morning.  All on about 1 hour of sleep.  That will vary depending on the team.  Faster teams have less time between vans, obviously, and less sleep.  Our van was the slower van, so we paid the price for the team in loss of sleep, while the other van had lots of time. 

Valorie, if you want to participate...the team will need three volunteers at some point.  Also, it's fun to go to the finish line and cheer on the team and take pics. 

No, Robie, this will not be a seriously fast team with ANY chance of winning, but because it is a SEVERSON team it will be competitive somehow.  Bet on it.  I wouldn't stress out about your time.  If you complete the race you are a winner. :)  Just the training you will do to get you ready for the race will be worth it. 

Well, I began my training tonight with a plate of cookies and a large cinnamon roll.  Washed it down with an orange soda and a hot chocolate.  That should bring me up to nearly 180lbs. 

Yes, the Bigelow Van is definitely available again - although we do have the automatic doors - sorry.    Greg is definitely in and is already "easing into it" to get the over 50 joints working again.  My only request is to NOT have him run the first leg (completely downhill from Timberline lodge to Government Camp) .  He had no toenails left!  The rest of the Bigelow girls will be cheering (in uniform if you'd like) at the finish line.

I had a great time running in a similar relay last summer.  In fact, I am still featured on the home page of the race website.  Check out the trailer.  On my first leg of the race there was a car that kept following me.  I looked back at it a few times trying to figure out who they were.  It turned out to be the video team.  I am sad to report that I wont be able to participate in the race this summer.  I really want to, but  there are too many complications. 
http://www.ragnarrelay.com/

JD has said he wants to run. I'm sure this will be decided later, but he too would prefer the uphill or flat runs to downhill. Put me down for clapping and cheering.

Looking good Paul! Brent does not want to run. We will, however, be happy to be volunteers.

You need to convince Ben Luke to participate - rumor has it that he has run and won a couple of distance races in Chicago. And if there is not an age limit (on the downside) Michael James should represent the 76 Scenic Seversons. I think he is running cross country. Eric could also do it - although he would be back into football in August and will be trying to gain 20 pounds rather than lose weight running distances.

There is no excuse for Jacob and Jason not to run - they are young enough and could easily get themselves in running shape in 10 months. If there is still an opening for a volunteer, I will happily do it. 

Haha, Troy!  Yeah, you better believe I am putting in extra effort!   ;-)  Every morning at 6:30am.  Yawn!!  I don't mind the downhill runs, I run about a mile downhill every morning (then about 3 uphill), there is no flat space to run where I live, so if everyone is wanting to avoid that one, I would be willing to volunteer to take it. 

I have ton of questions but I will only post a couple:

1.  I have never like running or been a runner is it even possible for me to become one?

2.  I get scared by myself at night...  will I be running in the middle of no where by myself?

3.  How many miles would I have to run at one time?

4.  Is the hardest part of the race, not getting any sleep or is the run itself hard?

5.  When you are not running what are you doing and where?

 

Anyone can become a runner, unless you have knee/back problems or something.  It's mostly about consistency.  Some people are natural runners.  For those who aren't (I'm definitely not), you just have to be diligent about going out and doing it regularly.  It's hard at first, but it gets easier.  There are training guides online for starting a running program.  Here's one article http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

 

I'm sure Troy or someone else can answer better, but I think each person does 3 separate legs that are 4-6 miles each.  So total about 15 miles?  Some legs are harder than others (uphill vs. flat or downhill), but I know I've heard Holly say the lack of sleep is the hardest part. 

Awesome video Paul.  It makes me want to go out and do HTC this weekend. 

I liked the link that Laura gave as well.  I agree that the key is slow consistency.  The other thing I like to do is keep track of all my runs.  I use an excel spreadsheet, and I know that sounds pretty OCD, but it really helps me to be able to look back at the progress I've made.

Hey, Chris, most of the family are OCD, so we're all okay with that :-)

I also like the idea of a plan like the one Chris linked to. I made Shelley a walking plan way back when (10+ years ago) from a book that Allen had from athletic training program. I used a running plan, too, and got reasonably better/longer, but I got pregnant (with Michael) before I finished it, and haven't really done much running sense. But it seemed to be working and was manageable - your goals increased a little each week and your body could adapt and do them.

Robie, the sleep deprivation is definitely the hardest part as far as I am concerned.  The run legs are not difficult, though I think I had one of the easier ones.   I am not a runner, but I started training for HTC early in the year that I did it and got up to running 5-6 miles at a time.  The challenge is that the legs are only separated by like 10 hours or so.  Your legs have just enough time to get stiff before you are out there again.  There are only a few dark spots along the route, and I think I had one of the darkest.  It wasn't scary, though.  You will have to carry or wear a light and there are people running past you occasionally.  Or at least they ran past me, the slow one.  It is worth doing at least once in your life and you will be glad you did.  You get a chance to have crazy conversations over the 24+hour period and get to know your van mates like never before.  That was fun.

Holly, had you ever done any kind of run before HTC? I'm just curious, because years ago when I worked at Avia, I had this idea that I wanted to do Hood to Coast (possibly because I was tired of being the only person in the office on the Friday of Hood to Coast...) I talked to a lot of experienced HTC people (some runners, some not), and they pretty much uniformly said it wasn't a good race to start with. They all advised that you at least try a 5K first. So I plan to do HTC some time, right after I do a 5K or 10K race... 15 years later and I'm still working up to that.

No, I don't think I had ever run anything more than a training run before HTC.  I don't see why it is any more difficult than any other road race, other than the sleep deprivation and doing the runs so close together.  you can do anything for a short while.  You survive.

LOL, Charlotte.  So does this mean your ready now?

No, I'm not. I tried to take up running again this summer. I just can't seem to stick with it, even though I feel like I'm in the best shape I've ever been in. Guess I just prefer to stick with spinning, kickboxing, yoga, pilates, Zumba, weights, anything but running!

Wow, Aimee - I just remembered that Walking program.  Why were we so short-lived?  I guess pregnancy got in the way for me, because I believe that was right before Delaney.  Get me going again,  I love Walking and I think it is the best combination of Mental and physical therapy around.

It was after Delaney, because we moved here when Delaney was a few months old. I don't remember what happened, though, other than Sherri was doing it, too, and she's such a flake it was hit and miss with her. I thought it was right before I was pregnant with Michael, and I guess Ainsley wasn't too long after that, so I'm good with pregnancy as an excuse. Right now I'm going with small baby and lack of sleep as my excuse for not getting up and exercising. But hopefully that'll excuse will run out soon - this kid better sleep through the night once he's in his own room!

Maybe we should do the Portland to Coast Walk that is done in conjunction with HTC. I just checked the website and while HTC is full, PTC is still open. Basically, PTC starts at the 13th leg of HTC, and walks the 2nd half of the course. We would need 12 walkers, who would each do 2 legs. Legs vary in length from 4.15 miles to 7.25 miles. In order to put together a team, we would also need two vans and 3 volunteers, same as HTC. We end at the same place as HTC. Here's a link to the PTC website:

 http://www.hoodtocoast.com/ptcgetstarted.php?i=ptc

 

Who's up for a walk? Ralph, Sue, Shelley, Valorie, Aimee, Robie??

I might be up for walking. 

I would definetly do the walk: )  I'm not worried about being in shape by Aug to do the HTC... my only concern is I do not like running!!  I never have.  But I do love to walk and can walk forever.  I wish I could find a love for runnig but I never have and I'm like Charolette I LOVE the clasees at the gym.

Oh yeah Charlotee, let's start a competition for the volunteers.  I'll let Holly address PTC since she's done it.  Like HTC, she says she'll never do it again, but for totally different reasons.

Robie:

1. I have never like running or been a runner is it even possible for me to become one?   Answer: Absolutely.  Honestly, there is no more natural exercise than running.  There is lots of help too.  In addition to what Laura linked to, here's another guy who is a guru in beginners learning to run injury free, Jeff Galloway.  http://www.jeffgalloway.com/  The key is to start slow (running/walking during first workouts for example) and then building slowly (no more than adding 10% in your longest run in any one week).  Set goals and as Chris said, track your workouts in a log.  I've logged my workouts in the same stupid excel spreadsheet since 1999.  It sounds stupid, but it is REALLY motivating to be able to look at my history and know I'm doing more (or need to do more) to reach my goals.  Holly and I also have a lot of fun using Nike Plus and our iPods to set group goals and track each others' process along with some friends.
2. I get scared by myself at night... will I be running in the middle of no where by myself?  Yes, you will be running in the middle of the night.  You are usually NOT alone.  In addition to runners, other vans also pass you, and depending on the timing & location, you could even be running through downtown.
3. How many miles would I have to run at one time? The longest legs are 6-7 miles, but we could try to find you an 'easier' leg, though none of them are really easy.  You seem to either get hills or length.
4. Is the hardest part of the race, not getting any sleep or is the run itself hard? Depends on the individual.  Holly doesn't like to miss sleep.  Many Seversons don't mind missing sleep.  My first couple of years, I could barely walk after doing this.  Now it's sort of a walk in the park, so...
5. When you are not running what are you doing and where?   You're in the van cheering for your teammates or trying to rest, stretch, eat and get to the next van exchange.  We usually stop for showers & a meal after the first set of legs, then drive ahead to get sleep after running the second set of legs.

Are there any rules against having a 9mm tucked in the back of your running shorts in the middle of the night?

I'm scared if you couldn't even walk after doing this your first couple year!!!  I will do it but put me on the bottom of the list, so if there is anyone else that REALLY wants to do it they can kick me off.  Seriously I am fine not doing it if anyone else wants my place.  I did start working out yesterday but I will start logging my work outs and doing what those websites suggest.  I'm not really concerned about the sleep b/c I have had sleep for 6 years but I am still nervous about running at night.  Do we have backup runners just incase someone can't do it?

I was really excited to do the walk until I read what Troy said about Holly--so I want to know why Holly did not like it.  Brad and I walk every morning 2-3 miles.  We have slacked a little since we lost Deja to Utah but I love to walk and feel like I can walk forever and am a fast walker.  Wonder if there is an altitude change that would be hard?  Brad might be interested too but I will let him speak for himself.  The more I read about the running training I get excited and think I should try it AGAIN.  I have started so many times and really dislike it but maybe there is some new miraculous fun way to train.  I remember running along River Rd in Lebanon and hating every step.  I tried running here in my neighborhood and quit after a few tries.  It HURTS my lungs--not my legs, nothing else--just my lungs.  So what am I doing wrong? 

you have to stop smoking, mom.

Sorry Troy, you're right. I doubt we could come up with the 6 volunteers.. I kinda forgot this is mostly an "every man for himself" family, not an altruistic family. :-) This was a spur of the moment idea for me -- just trying to help Shelley & Aimee with their walking programs. I've never considered doing PTC before, and haven't ever talked to anyone about it (I didn't know Holly had done it). It would be interesting to hear Holly's report.

Well, my walking program is about 10 years old now, so no worries on my end. I'd think about participating, but it's okay if we drop it, either way. I'd probably just as soon do the running as the walking, my problem with both is that they're boring. Running is probably better, at least you're done faster :-)

Heck no, we could probably get a team for walking.  What is Holly's report on her experience? 

Volunteering doesn't pay.

HAHAHA, I was laughing out loud here at work when I read sean's report of his first training session.  hahhaa, and then again about the 9mm.  HTC volunteers isn't too bad, I volunteered with Jacob and Jason and Michelle and we got free T-shirts and a place to stay.  It sounds like if we are going to have this many people show up in Oregon, we may need to reserve camp Arrah-wanna (it's on the route) and another place in Seaside.  (Also reserve a table at Pig-n Pancake for breakfast.) 

Okay, so here's my feelings on the PTC...WAY TOO SLOW!!!!!  The race starts even earlier the first day than HTC, if I am remembering correctly, and it is a really long day/night/day.  I have been a walker for years, and I am pretty fast, but I was sore afterward and had some blisters.  I think I had longer legs than most of my teammates, but i just found it to be boring and long.  I like to walk/run and talk.  At least with the running, you are through in around an hour.  2-3 hours without any conversation or music is really hard.  Again, for me the sleep deprivation is the challenge.  I don't like being uncomfortable around 3 or 4am-cold and tired.  All I could think about was curling up in a warm bed.

You can't have music?  If not the I am definetly out!!

I can't remember for sure, but I think it is against the rules for safety reasons.  Troy can correct me if I'm wrong.

Okay since I am not a runner by any means however I would love to volunteer. So if any of the 3 volunteer spots for HTC are still open I would like to volunteer. Kudos to all of you for taking on this challenge. I'll get Jason on here to read this as well.

Holly, thanks for the info. That sounds awful! I don't do well on sleep deprivation. I'm out for the walk.

I really don't  think I can do it without music.  

Sounds fine with me after that info.  I will just go back to being a volunteer for HTC.

Wow, I didn't mean to totally kill any enthusiasm.  I am glad I did it once, but I have to say those are the reasons I'm not repeating the race.

Please consider me confirmed for the run. I asked Jacob if he wanted to run in it and he said he didn't really know about it because he doesn't come on TF that often. Let the training begin!

Troy, so was shopping around at Ipods today for the heck of it.  What's the little Nike gadget that plugs into your ipod do?  I know you have one.

Sounds like a master list should be compiled -- confirmed runners and "would run" runners.  I guess I'd put myself in the latter category, since I did HTC in 1989 so not sure I need to actually participate 20 years later.  I'll talk with Michael, as he's our family runner -- as Ralph mentioned, he did pretty well on his freshman X-Country team.  Eric wouldn't do it, as football would be under way then, and as the only returning senior on the offensive line, will be fully committed next August.

In answer to Robie's questions and for any one else on the bubble, I was in great shape in 1989, but not really in "running" shape.  I thought it was pretty hard -- partly as I had leg #1 (severly downhill) and partly just that I am not a natural runner.  It would be a mistake to sign up and not start working up to getting in running shape now -- you can't cram for this test.  And like Troy's first time, I could barely walk for a couple days after running it.

It would be really fun to be a part of this -- even if just to help out or cheer people on.  Might give our family a good reason for a trip to Oregon, and it's during the three month window we are willing to visit Portland.

Put me in the middle of both of those list.  If I do it I would start training right away.  I know it's hard to believe, looking at me know, but I do love to work out and at one time was in great shape, so I know I can do it but I just hate running and working out without music.    If anyone else would love to do it I would gladly sit out.

Haven't seen Brandt on here for a while.  'Three month window' - LOL.  Like me, a warm weather person. 

Just had a few things going on at work over the last little while . . .

Sean, you really need to quit with the LOL.  I don't know why but that is the most annoying acronym ever invented.

Some great buys out there right now.  Been a little stable the last few days finally.

Upon further review, the play on the field has been reversed . . .

My kids (including Michael, our only real runner) will already be back in school.  So no trip to Oregon for us; consequently, no HTC for the 76 Scenic crew.

Sean -- if you are actually purchasing those great buys out there right now, you are in a minority.

Nope not purchasing anything, and I dumped my PCP stock at $103  LOL.

So this morning I got up, put on my like new running shoes and hit the treadmill.  I know, it's just a treadmill but I don't really have the gear to hit the road yet.  I have to hook up huge headphones to my PC for music right now.  I ran a total of 5 miles, the last 3 miles I did in 32:30.  I had a few technical difficulties, at about mile 2 I ran it up to 10mph (maxed) just for a short sprint and blew the circuit breaker on it.  :)  Took me a few minutes to find it.  The belt needs to be tightened as occasionally it slips and really goofs you up. 

I need to figure out a better set of running shorts than my swim suit.  I have these big thighs that the material bunches up between and causes a bit of a chafing and nearly rubs the skin off my thighs. 

 

AHAHAHAH LOL LOL LOL.   (How you like them apples, cotty?)  I never type LOL by the way.  I exercised for a total of 9 hours this week.  Thats about my average week.  Sean, try running in teal spandex shorts with a fishnet tank top on, tucked in.  After someone stops and beats you up, you won't feel the chafing.

Sorry it bugs you Scotty, you'll just have to figure out a way to deal with it.  I like to throw that in there a lot to make sure people know I'm joking.

Hey Sean, this is Brent. You have a couple of options with the Nike + system. One that works with your ipod or one that is a wrist band that captures the same data but you don't listen to music while you run. Basically, the system allows you to track milage and time per mile. You can also set up challenges or join challenges. First to 40 miles and stuff like that. It actually gets you out and running when you're hooked up in a challenge. I usually use mine when I'm running somewhere I've never run or if I'm in a challenge. If you want to make improvements in your time and distance it's a great tracking device. After you've run, you sync your ipod up to your computer and load the data for all the runs you've done. I've thought about getting one of the wrist band types but I've heard they're not as accurate as the set up with the ipod. Call with questions but I recommend the device as a way to stay motivated. The shorts are a whole other conversation that I'll leave for someone else.

So can you hook me up with a good deal on one of them gadgets?  I suppose I will need an Ipod too, can you hook me up with one of them too.  Thanks Brent.  Sounds like something to make running a little more fun.  Can I use it on a treadmill?  Do you have to have the Nike+ shoes to use it?

 

I need to start a blog on Ipods cuz I don't know much about them.  Mr. Techie asking questions I know.  I should already know about them. 

 

I definitely need to figure out the shorts problem because the thighs are rubbed a little raw this morning.  You folks with chicken legs probably don't have this problem.

Unfortunately there are no deals for Nike employees. The price is the same whether you buy in the employee store or if you go to an Apple store. You do need shoes that are Nike+ capable. I think that yours are. Look at the left shoe in the insole. There should be an emblem. Pull the insole and you should see a "plug" that can be removed. That's where you would place the sensor. I think the kit cost is around $30. I recommend the newest Nano ipod. Really light weight and comes with tons of memory. I don't have one but wish that I did. I have the previous version that is square and not as sleek. Oh well, they change them about every 6 months anyway. Let me know when you want to go shopping and we'll make a day of it.

One more thing. If you don't have Nike+ shoes, I think that I have a velcro pouch that you can put the sensor in and lace it to the top of any running shoes. I bought that before I invested in a new pair of shoes.

No Nike+.  These are the Moto5's and are pretty new, I'm surprised they aren't Nike+.  I guess I got ripped.  Teach me a lesson about who I buy from I guess.  Ya, I'd love to get the new Gen4 8gig if I can get capital funding approved.  So if you could hook me up with that pouch that would be cool.  I would need everything else first so I guess I'm in no hurry.

My shoes are compatible, but I stillI keep my sensor in the pouch so I can change it easily between my walking and running shoes.

Hey, my shoes do have it.  I guess I didn't look in the right place.  Inside the shoe it has a nike swoosh and a plus so there you go.  Lifted the insole and it's got the compartment inside.  Cool.

Sean, I have a wrist band I'll sell you at a discount (complete with the little sensor for the shoe).  I bought it, but I do enjoy running with music.  I probably have some running shorts I could do without as well.  I don't know how anyone every runs on a treadmill.  I would rather run in the most heinous weather outside than run on a treadmill inside.  My max patience for a treadmill is 30 minutes.  Got in 7 good miles on the Wildwood Trail this morning from the Zoo to Pittock mansion and back.  I do it every Thanksgiving I'm in Oregon and we usually get an awesome sunrise over P-town from Pittock Mansion.  Makes you feel like you've earned your turkey. 

Jay, how do we do groups on here?

Sean, this is Charlotte re-taking my TFox login. Okay, so Brent told you EXACTLY where to look (inside the shoe, look for the swoosh, look for the plus, lift the insole) and you COMPLETELY MISSED IT the first time?? No wonder you vote for Sizemore issues. We will get you some help, Sean. I promise. No Child Left Behind. Troy, you just form a circle to create a group. But why leave all us non-HTC's out? Just post what you want, we'll kibbitz where appropriate (or not...)

Well, I'm not in the shoe industry and wasn't clear really what 'insole' meant.  AND I was looking for Nike+, not Swoosh+.  I was looking around on the outside of the shoe since I figured that would be an obvious place to mark a shoe with something like that?  I guess not. 

You don't want me to talk about not noticing a 120 gallon saltwater tank your sitting next to with nearly 1000watts of lighting shining in your face do you?  Sometimes people just miss the obvious.

Ha Ha! Too true, Sean.

Another option on the chaffing is to wear compression shorts under the running shorts.  That's what I do.  The compression shorts are like bike shorts without the padding and go to mid thigh or so.  I've got some from the Nike store but I think you can get them a lot of places. 

Nice work on the 5 miles, Sean.  I think it took me 4 months of running to get up to that far. 

Thanks Chris, my right foot has really been aching now though.  Could be these NIkes, maybe I need Addidas.  :)  I have this pain right in the center of the bottom of my foot right in front of my heal.  I've had this before in the past and hopefully it goes away soon.  Not sure what it is. 

Plantar fascitis.  I have had it a few times before.  Troy will tell you to really stretch out after running, that will prevent you from getting it, and also help it get better.

Jonathan gets that too.  They sell some socks that you can wear at night that supposedly keep your foot from flexing and helps prevent plantar fascitis.  Some people swear by them, but they're pretty uncomfortable.  Definitely stretching is always a good thing.

And Chris needs compression shorts because he's got big thick legs like Sean??  What are you up to these days, Doc -- 140?  Just giving you the business . . .

Ya, I was thinking about compression shorts, I think I actually have some so will have to try it.

140 on a good day.

Usually a buck 35.  I get down to 130 sometimes when I'm doing max miles for a marathon.

I started wearing the compression shorts at Miramonte doing hurdles.  You typically want to keep things compressed.  :O

Speaking of Miramonte, the Mats won again last night -- a tough one, 27 - 20 over Healdsburg.  Now they advance to the NCS semi finals, likely to play powerhouse Novato, at Novato.  Funny to think that the second Severson to play MHS varsity outweighs the first one by 50 pounds (and counting!)

Way to go boys.  Glad to have you back among us, Brandt.

I just found out I missed a free Ipod deal at Key Bank if you signed up.  I would have done that.  They were offering either a new 8 gig nano or the Touch.  It ended in October though.  I bought a micro SD card for my phone and uploaded music to it to try to make a poor man's ipod, however for some reason the music on the SD card is all distorted.  If the music is on the phone itself it sounds fine.  Just another one of those things that should have worked just fine and for some reason isn't cooperating with me.

 

I ran almost 3 miles last night on the tread mill in 30 minutes and was dying.  Still worn from the 5 miler the other night.  This is going to be a tough event I can tell.

Wow Sean I'm so impressed!  That's a lot of mileage already.

Way to go, Sean!  Maybe you're starting a bit too fast?  When I started running, I used to go to the track and run a lap, walk a lap, etc. and built up to running a mile, etc.  You are starting with a very ambitious distance.

If I gear up to run I like to make it worth my time and run until I'm exhausted.  My foot isn't hurting much anymore which is good.

Sean, definitely stretch your calves more to relieve the pain under your foot.  Hold the stretches for at least 30 seconds.  A good plan is to stretch one calf for the whole commercial while watching TV, then switch.  BTW, Holly's right on starting slower.  Don't try to do too much too fast, it will only lead to injury or frustration or both.

So, at the next family dinner do we meet early for a group run?

Sounds like a plan for me.  When and where is it?  Are we all going to be stinky and sweaty at dinner? 

The next family dinner is Christmas Eve at Grandma's house. She has a few showers, I'm sure you could use them after your run :-)

I would love to do it....however, if someone REALLY wanted to run in it and there weren't enough spots, I'd be willing to let them have my spot....so count me in!

What's our team name?

So I'm just curious. Is Pam still running, even though she'll be like 6 or 7 months pregnant? Or do I need to start training. Ha! Ha! Never...

I ran four miles this morning, pretty tired afterward. Should I be doing some kind of testing where I run five or six miles, then do it again after 11 hours to see what that would be like?

Pam's thinking she won't be running. Even if she could still run 4-6 miles, staying up all night in the van and running that 3 times probably wouldn't be ideal.  I told her if for no other reason she couldn't run because there wouldn't be enough bathroom stops. :-)

Jason all you can run is 4 miles!!!  OMG!!  I just ran 5 miles tonight and I wasn't even tired: )  Maybe you need to gain an extra 35lbs around like me... jk.

At this point, Jason, don't worry about it.  I never ran more than one time a day training for HTC and did just fine with it.  Why torture yourself more than race day? :)

This is August 28-29, right?  Does the run start early Friday morning and go until Saturday afternoon? Or what is the timeframe?  There are some cheap tickets between salt lake and portland right now, so I might come cheer people on. :-) Don't count on me for running, though.  My longest runs post-baby have been a mile and a half, so I'm not exactly in prime shape.

I sure would like to get some assignments from the boss on what legs we are running in etc. so I can have some idea.  Boss...??

Greg is up to 9 miles -- I know because I ride my bike along with him.  I truly cannot understand how he just keeps going and never looks winded or tired.  He would love to know what legs he is running.

I made it 9 miles, once.  I think I am still recovering.  Haven't jogged in over a week now. 

I've never run that far!  Last weekend I ran 6.8, my farthest distance yet.

Holly I am impressed with how much you walk and run!!   6.8 is really far!!  I can only do 5 now: )  Do you run every other day?

I only run 3 days a week, and only one of them is more than 3.5 miles.  I'm just hoping I can make it the 13 miles without walking.  That's my goal.  I don't care about how fast I do it.

I received the official handbook in the mail yesterday.  On leg assignments, send me your preferences.  I'll then make suggested assignments on what I konw about your running habits and we can negotiate/make alterations from there.

On runners, without Pam, we're back to 11, but I can step in if needed.  I'd be willing to take one of the hard legs as well, so perhaps that's the route we go.

More info to follow when i don't have a meeting to attend.

i will take easy or medium legs.   maybe 1 difficult.  Just let me know my assignment.

I will take whatever you want to give me Troy.  I would just like to have some idea on what to train for. 

BRING IT ON!!! ANY LEG, ANY TIME!

Ditto that Jase!  I'll do whatever....sucking wind on a hard leg or any easy one doesn't matter to me!  haha j/k  No really, I have been running!